‘The Lord [God] was with the men of Judah.
They took possession of the hill country,
but they were unable to drive the people from the plains,
because they had iron chariots.’
So states the Bible in Judges 1:19 at
http://bible.cc/judges/1-19.
This means that God, as described, is not omnipotent,
for he could not even handle iron chariots.
Was Judah perhaps lacking in faith, that made it so?
God is still not omnipotent, in being unable to inspire faith then.
But as he is there despite being supposedly omniscient,
he must not be really omniscient either.
As God was seeking to divide people via war,
he is not omnibenevolent either.
Thus, God, as ‘self-described’,
is not omnipotent, omniscient or omnibenevolent.
In short, God is not God as popularly believed;
there is no omnipotent, omniscient or omnibenevolent God.
The Lion’s Roar
Ven. Mohottiwatte Gunananda and Rev. David de Silva, the two main protagonists in the Panadura Debate [1873 in Sri Lanka, between Christianity and Buddhism], had very contrasting styles and characters. Already a seasoned debater, Gunananda was able to play to the audience, standing up and dramatically gesticulating as he spoke. He also addressed the audience in everyday Sinhalese, whereas de Silva used many Pali and Sanskrit quotes which they could not understand easily. Having received a Christian education, Gunananda also knew the Bible very well. On his own, Gunananda was more than a match for the Christian debaters in terms of oratorical skills. It was his Lion’s Roar which dispelled the fear and shame imposed on the Buddhists by the missionaries’ continual disparagement of their religion, and it reawakened the country’s pride in its religion.
After much arguments and counter-arguments, the turning point of the debate was when Ven. Gunananda pointed to the verse at Judges 1:19 in the Bible. The verse states : “And the LORD was with Judah, and he drove out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.” Gunananda said that this showed clearly that the God could not be omnipotent as claimed, if he could not even overcome iron chariots. Rev. de Silva tried to explain that the reason the God did not overcome the chariots was because Judah did not have enough faith in him. However, Gunananda countered by asking, if Judah did not have enough faith, then why was the God with him in the first place? Sri Lankans believe that evil spirits are afraid of iron. In fact, they commonly hang a piece of iron up on their homes to keep evil spirits at bay. Gunananda’s point thus made sense to the audience because of this.
Although there were more arguments, the debate was effectively over by the first day. The victory for the Buddhists could not have been more resounding and emphatic, with the crowd shouting and cheering for Gunananda and the other monks. The Lion had Roared. Word of the triumph spread rapidly throughout the island with temples, villages and towns breaking out in open and joyous celebration. Reflecting the open and tolerant nature of the people, the festivities were free from hostility and anger towards the defeated party, even though they were boisterous and happy. Pride had returned to Buddhism and its revival in Sri Lanka had begun.
– From Page 52 of ‘Island of Light: Buddhism in Sri Lanka
(A Concise History and Guide to Its Sacred Sites)’
http://dhammaprotector.blogspot.com/2011/02/panadura-debate-buddhist-christian.html
http://www.scribd.com/doc/47524900/Island-Of-Light
Related Article:
How A Religion Destroyed Another
https://moonpointer.com/new/2010/06/how-a-religion-destroyed-another
Read Joshua 17:16-18 and 18:1
There is no all-powerful, all-good and all-wise creator because if there is one, there would not be the creation, allowance or sustenance of even a single trace of what is weak, evil and foolish in this world, which are attributes found almost everywhere.
As this is a Buddhist blog, for a comparison between the god-idea with the Buddha, please see http://www.tinyurl.com/bbelief Please refrain from evangelising here.
Hello,
I am very interested in the painting of the Panadura debate. Was this painting done back in the day, or is it a modern depiction? I’d really love to know!
If indeed a perfect creator created a “perfect” creation then naturally the “perfect” creation would make a perfect choice despite being given free will and posed with temptations. Definitely a perfect creation is more powerful than any evil who is not perfect.
Perfect is as perfect does. Imperfect is as imperfect does. If an initally perfect creation can end up imperfect…it can only be imperfect to begin with from an imperfect pair of hands.