If Only Confucius Met the Buddha

In the latest movie depiction of the most turbulent years in the life of ‘Confucius’, there was a scene where Confucius spoke up for a sacrificial bird in court. There was a discussion over whether the bird, who bit off its main tail feather, ought to be killed as scheduled for the gods or liberated into the wild – since it seems pretty inauspicious that such an ‘offering-to-be’ is not incomplete. Now, the fact that there was killing intended is already inauspicious – for the bird! And the killer would create inauspicious negative karma for intentional killing too.

Confucius then seized the opportunity to speak against the custom of sacrificing humans for the rich and powerful who are deceased. When a minister expressed indignation against his proposal, Confucius remarked that since that minister is concerned, and that he is dear to the deceased, it would be more sincere if he could sacrifice himself! Indeed, true sacrifice must be of oneself or something from oneself; instead of external things, animals or even people. Of course, the Buddha does not advocate sacrifice of one’s life for minor purposes or when one is not ready like a well-trained Bodhisattva. The most immediate items to sacrifice, as encouraged by the Buddha, are our defilements of greed, hate and delusion.

It is a common misunderstanding that Confucianism is totally aligned with Buddhism – when there are a number of Confucian teachings that are anti-Dharma. For instance, in one scene, Confucius sees a lazing student and made a famous remark – that ‘rotten wood cannot be carved.’ Well, a human, being a sentient being, is not a block of wood. All sentient beings have the potential to change, to awaken their Buddha-nature. This might seem to be a minor point of difference but it is not, as it is unfair to label or to be labeled ‘rotten wood’ – especially when no one is ‘rotten’ all the way to the core. All the ‘rotten’ need to do is to chip away their defiled parts. This itself is already carving in process – to uncover the Buddha within. In fact, the more ‘rotten’ a person appears, the more should he or she be helped to discover Buddha-nature.

In the film, Confucius also advised rulers on warring matters that involved mass-killing, and advocated nationalistic pride of wearing one’s helmet… even if dying on the battlefield. Now, the Buddha would disagree on this pointless attachment to pride during one’s final moments. Such worldly attachment can severely disturb one’s peace of mind. In the worst case scenario, it might even lead to an unfortunate rebirth.

Interestingly, Confucius was shown to have dialogues with Lao Tze (Laozi; Laocius), the founder of Taoism. Lao Tze, who had already renounced worldly life to be a wanderer, urged Confucius to give up his mission of going against the grain of predominant ugly human-nature then. However, Confucius was bent on spreading his teachings of benevolence for kings and their people. It struck me that Confucianism is a thoroughly worldly set of teachings on ritualistic political and social conduct, that does not touch on deeper spiritual matters such as the afterlife, while Taoism in its earliest phase advocated non-contrived naturalistic individual conduct.

Taoism focuses on nature and Confucianism focuses on nurture. Buddhism, however, takes the Middle Path, and pays just enough attention on important worldly matters, while not forgetting the ultimate goal of spiritual liberation. Though the Buddha conversed with kings and queens, and advised them on all kinds of matters, he was clear about keeping a distance from politicising his teachings. Confucius, by the end of the story, finally relinquished politics after years of ‘banishment’ and disillusionment, and decided to focus only on teaching. Confucius is said to had remark that Lao Tze was profound and ‘dragon-like’. If only Confucius met the Buddha! [Please note that this article is a movie review, which might reflect the movie’s inadequacies.]

14 thoughts on “If Only Confucius Met the Buddha

  1. Yeah from what I know Confucianism is very worldy. I think Confucius actually said something like, there’s no need to ask about the after-life, when this life is enough for us to deal with. Or something to the effect. 未知生,焉知死

    But guess being Chinese, I’ve always been quite interested to learn more about his teachings.

    Although I think the Dharma is the most wonderful teachings anybody could learn, not everybody has the karmic affinity, probably just not yet, so for people who need some form of guidance yet don’t click with Buddhism, I believe Confucianism is one that could help them.

    Yes, agree, if only Confucius had met the Buddha!

  2. I think it’s very dangerous that Confucius advocated ‘dismissing’ death and the afterlife as important issues, because the truth is, this life can end any time. As such, what might happen thereafter is always of immediate concern, as much as how we should live now.

    (I)

  3. 未知生,焉知死 can also be interpreted as in order do know what your afterlife holds for you, you need to be aware of what you are doing in your present life? If you are not aware of your present life, how can you secure your afterlife?

    So essentially, it is important to make sure that you are leading a wholesome life.

  4. Anyone knows the authencity of some of the scenes shown in the movies? As in whether Confucius did say certain words and whether certain events did happen?

  5. But if you don’t care about your afterlife, would any one bother about leading a moral life? Since this life has no consequences.

    As for the scenes, and like many movies they are dramatized and rearranged for entertainment’s sake. I won’t take them as actual. 🙂

  6. Sorry just realise a typo error.
    未知生,焉知死 can also be interpreted as in order “to” know instead of 未知生,焉知死 can also be interpreted as in order “do” know

    I think what we do now has effects on this life and afterlife.

  7. Confucius sees a lazing student and made a famous remark – that ‘rotten wood cannot be carved.’ Well, a human, being a sentient being, is not a block of wood. All sentient beings have the potential to change, to awaken their Buddha-nature

    If I am not wrong Confucius’intention was to jolt the student to his senses when he made the comment.

  8. If I’m not wrong, after Confucius made that comment, 宰子 did turn over a new leaf.

    Personal opinion on that excerpt is also to not only believe base on listening but to find out the truth for ourselves as well. =)

    It is also quite difficult to assess people’s true intentions. What is perceived as bad actions may be carried out with good intentions which will then result in good outcomes.

    Another perspective on the same issue.
    http://haihui.ntcu.edu.tw/bbs/list.asp?unid=1911

  9. It’s interesting that when the expression 朽木不可雕 is used, it is often used to describe someone as hopeless, and that’s it. Then again, if someone is hopeless, there is no need to comment so.

    I wonder how many who are called 朽木, or in the Singapore context ‘rotten apples’, do turn over a new leaf. It can have worse effects if taken badly. We need to be very careful with words indeed. Amituofo.

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