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Hi. I agree with the logic of this. Yet we must consider humans through collective effort are able to create supercomputers which can churn superhuman data and analysis. While this is not approaching Buddha-like it’s an example of how humans through ingenuity and collective effort can overcome seemingly insurmountable challenges.
Yes! Though supercomputers are in terms of logical computation only, and not so much capable of exercising compassion and wisdom. Supercomputers can be abused too.
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If a robot is given artificial inteligence that is able to learn can it then be said that with the right programing it could reach Buddhahood by it’s own means.
The 3 Laws that were stated in the Asimov robot story collection “I, Robot” not help the AI Robot evolve.
A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
A robot must obey any orders given to it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.
Humans could progrm the 5 precepts in the robot and with the first law the Robot could not watch as humankind destroyed it’s self with war and hatred so has the possibility to reach a level to help humankind move beyond it’s own self destruction.
‘IF a robot is given artificial inteligence that is able to learn can it then be said that with the right programing it could reach Buddhahood by it’s own means.’ – It’s a big ‘IF’. Requisites for Buddhahood include Buddha-nature, compassion and wisdom. Programmed information is hardly so.
Asimov’s Robot laws are idealistic. Robots must understand the essence of harm and protection in the first place. It’s virtually impossible to programme all the countless scenarios for pre-assessment. Also, robots can hang, be buggy… This is not saying robots are useless; they are not. But their usefulness is limited – at least, as yet imaginable.
Perhaps a robot would be more likely to be a buddha. It wouldn’t confuse its ability to reason with selfhood.
Hmmm… but Buddha-nature is required for Buddhahood…
If you take away the robot’s circuits, there’s just as much nothing there as when you take away the human mind.
The concept of buddha-nature might cause the robot to crave an eternal self, leading it away from buddhahood and toward dukkha.
A robot is just a robot. Without human & material input, what is it?
If I am correct. In the flower ornament sutra. The Buddha mentioned that there are other beings from other worlds. Some with heads bigger than their bodies, some made of metal. Wah is cybertron for real? If really such beings exists, are they robots too? Beings in the three worlds are not enlightened. But a robot born within the system of samsara should be able to attain nirvana since they are two sides of the same hand. But a robot built by unenlightened beings will never be enlightened. How do you give others something you dun even have in the first place? In the same way, when u have love. U be able to give love. U have compassion then u be able to give compassion. The Buddha have attained enlightenment. That’s why he is able to give his teachings to enlighten you as well. How to have? Have the right motivation and faith to begin with.
The Buddha said that all things have Buddha nature. Even a piece of dung. A rock. Ever heard of a rock saving someone in an accident or man saved by a branch in some really freak events. If one become a Buddha. Is there not a form whether animate or inanimate that one cannot take in order to benefit beings? If Sun wukong though fictitious can turn himself into a cupboard, how hard is that for a Buddha since the Buddha is already the core matrix or nature or heart of the nature in which everything is bathed within? In scientific view, the essence of all matter is the same. In the future, we may even have dispensing machines that produce anythg you want by assembling strings of molecules together. If that can be envisioned by futurists. How is that not possible spiritually?
Whether animate or not, the only thing that surfaces and migrates is the mind stirred by what the heart desires. If a robot can have consciousness embedded within it, is that a robot? I would see a future where humans may modify their bodies that they become more robots rather than making robots human. That will be the day when two classes of humanity will emerge. Humanoids. Humanoids need enlightenment. No matter how much we fashion ourselves in multitudinal ways of expression, the suffering brought by hatred, anger, desire, jealousy continues to be the crux problem of every era of existence. Even the best religion bathed in such evil is not spared of the suffering it brings to mankind.
The buzzword for the next future of humanity will be human augmentation. That will be the day humans will realise that our destiny lies in our own hands. No god creates us. We make ourselves in the image that we want and whether we make hell or heaven, light or darkness, the collective actions of all men will steer the future of this world into another hell or heaven. This is the same case where the collective decision of man is what make the selection of our president for our country. All share the collective good karma when the choice is right. All share the collective bad karma when the decision is wrong whether u have vote for or against. U are all sleeping under the same blanket and bed.
If one study the bardos. The form we take is indeed the image we made ourselves into. We are our own prosecutors. So are we our own defendents if we live for the right cause. Our conscience and the deeply buried alaya consciousness do not lie. When we betray our conscience and violate others with our body, speech and mind. Our conscience will betray us as well by not colluding with us and speaking the truth against us. We can lie to others but we cannot lie to ourselves. Which is why we can bury our conscience but we can never destroy it. The Buddha’s emphasis on mind and heart training is really the only antidote to liberation. May those who choose the dharma path learn well in order to benefit others.
May our conscience and consciousness testify for us leading us to positive paths of existence and not testify against us. Every contact leads a clue. Every action and imprint has an audit trail. Maybe that’s why psychics can recollect certain events left behind as spiritual imprints when they touch the objects left by deceased or the missing. Our actions all leave imprints all over. In this world of computers, your audit trail with what you do with your computer, the ability of computer forensics to retrieve files from the FAT file even when one has deleted it very much suggest an existence of a similar system on the spiritual plane. That is our alaya embedded within your. Oh yes. To live a life of clear conscience. To confess when one transgresses is the only way to keep ourselves in check. Take nothing with you but leave as much good as you can behind for the good of all.
Can you help to find and share the Flower Ornament Sutra parts that mentioned what you said? Also, can you help to find and share sutra excerpts where the Buddha said all things like dung and rocks have Buddha-nature? How does dung become a Buddha or purposely save someone? What about rocks that kill someone? Do they have Buddha-nature? If all dung and rocks are Buddha manifestations, why are we not also manifested Buddhas? We are surely not, or we would know we are. If Buddha is the heart of nature, is Buddha also the heart of a tsunami that kills?
If a robot can have consciousness embedded within, it has become a sentient being, no longer a mere robot. How can robots be more sentient if they are not sentient in the first place? How can consciousness become embedded in them?
If our conscience can betray us, it is still conscience? Is conscience Buddha-nature? If so, how can it lie?